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    Discussion in started by Phil Sep 10, 2017

    1. Phil, Sep 10, 2017
      Phil

      Phil New Member

      male / 41
      I speak Japanese. Ask me anything. If you're interested in learning anything at all, just ask.

      I learned Japanese as my fourth language. I did it on my own, using only free resources online. Below is a quick reference, if you'd like to go it alone and become a competent user of the Japanese language (nihongo).

      N.B. this works best if you, like me, can see picture sin your head, and a good deal of time like it there instead of outside your head.

      Step 1

      a) Learn hiragana and romaji at the same time, then learn katakana.

      Resource: Search "namasensei" on Youtube, and do exactly what he tells you to do. Start at the beginning (first video)
      IMPORTANT: just one video lesson per day. You can't overload yourself. Always leave yourself wanting more.

      b) In your free time, watch videos of Jvloggers.

      Resource: I recommend Victor at the "gimmeaflakeman" channel, but there are a lot of good ones (girls and boys).

      Step 2

      Once done with Namasensei (aprox. 3-4 months), go to italki or some other language exchange website. Language exchange is finding a friend in Japan who wants to learn English from you half the time and teach Japanese to you the other half via Skype. Once you find someone you connect with, the learning does itself. I found this to be the most rewarding component of learning Japanese. I have friends for life now.

      Resources: italki.com (has a payed side, but there is a free language exchange part

      N.B. all the ones I used, other than italki, are buried deep in google. They seem like a dime a dozen now, so shop around. It must be free!

      Step 3

      Share your learning. Seek out opportunities to teach others what you know. Start a video series on your tube, write a post like mine. The world is more beautiful if you turn around and help out your fellow human, and also it helps you practice and consolidate your learning. Win / Win.

      OK. AMA.
       
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    2. Lady Komainu, Sep 10, 2017
      Lady Komainu

      Lady Komainu New Member

      female / 25
      Pretty nice guidelines on how to learn Japanese, but for some of us (like myself), I have trouble seeing pictures in my head as a way to remember things. For me, repetitive drilling is a way that I can memorize things, and for that I have used the app Memrise. I have only just gotten through learning hiragana, after basic phrases, but its already pretty rewarding. It's basically an app that you can quiz yourself daily on, with things like word match, spelling tests, voice to text answers, and videos of native speakers. Pretty helpful as a resource to complete step one in this process in my opinion.
       
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    3. Phil, Sep 11, 2017
      Phil

      Phil New Member

      male / 41
      Memrise is awesome. And should be in my recommendation. Thanks for sharing.

      I think Namasensei's video series, if you are not averse to swearing, might still be a good resource for you. After within the hiragana and katakana lessons (which encourage repetition / drilling) and afterwards, he has very nice grammar lessons. If you speak French, I have a similar video series in French / Japanese.

      BTW, nice to meet you Lady Komainu.
       
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    4. nicscano, Sep 11, 2017
      nicscano

      nicscano Member

      female / 22
      This is such a nice guide to just learning another language in general! I'm in Italian classes right now but my dream has always been to talk Japanese. I've started so many times with small online courses but I just can never get the hang out of it. I will really like using italky for just trying my other languages but will definitely try to learn Japanese as soon as I can really comprehend Italian.
       
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    5. BladeKin, Sep 11, 2017
      BladeKin

      BladeKin Member

      male / 23
      I feel the same, Japan as a culture just seems so interesting. I wish I could live their a month which would force myself to learn the language.

      Trying to learn a language online though seems more difficult to do.
       
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    6. Lady Komainu, Sep 11, 2017
      Lady Komainu

      Lady Komainu New Member

      female / 25
      I think the only thing that is difficult about learning online is that it relies on your own personal commitment and ability to focus. It's not like where you're forced to go to class and pay attention to the teacher or else risk getting scolded.
       
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    7. Phil, Sep 12, 2017
      Phil

      Phil New Member

      male / 41
      Nicscano, remember this thread is here and my offer for a side AMA is genuine and open as long as I frequent this forum. I wish you the best of luck in the meantime.

      Lady Komainu, yes! I have to develop an obsession with the language to stick with it. Live, breath and only talk to others about the exhilaration of the learning. Treat it like an addiction! They say something is an addiction when you start stopping regular behaviour to do the thing you're addicted to. Well, that's what I do with my language learning. I have, no joke, avoided Thanksgiving dinner with family with an excuse so I could make a language exchange Skype session. I have avoided other various social engagements just to go over my flash cards! Never do I feel more happiness when I do it, too. Just me I guess, but much better than a classroom and mean teacher.
       
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    8. BladeKin, Sep 12, 2017
      BladeKin

      BladeKin Member

      male / 23
      I feel like retention might be hard just reading in front of a computer.

      You have to be careful with this mindset. It can be like dopamine, always searching for the next quick hit of "happiness" instead of enjoying whats around you in the moment.
       
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    9. Phil, Sep 12, 2017
      Phil

      Phil New Member

      male / 41
      Ha ha, yes. And, I appreciate your concern for fellow forumKin. I love the 2017 Internet. It is a net good. I do have friends and family who can pull me out when necessary and the times I do share with them are strangely more fulfilling now. I am improved by my self-enrichment. Moreover, half my practice is done with other people, it's just they are in other countries and we have never met in person. My Japanese exchange partners (and their families), for example, have been my friends for almost ten years. We send each other package via snail mail, talk about life events...etc It is an amazing and fulfilling life. So, not crack. It's the only thing that works for me and it has never caused problems. I think anyone who has ever been excellent at anything, especially entrepreneurs, understand this aspect of life if they are disposed such as I am. I think for some other people they don't need this mindset.

      This thread is fun!
       
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    10. nicscano, Sep 12, 2017
      nicscano

      nicscano Member

      female / 22
      Wow that is being absolutely commited! I go to italian classes and still some times feel a little meeh. I wish I was as dedicated as you are!
       
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    11. SerbianGirl, Sep 27, 2017
      SerbianGirl

      SerbianGirl Member

      female / 28
      A few years ago, I've started learning Japanese online... and now I'm sorry I haven't put more effort into it.

      I learned English and Spanish in school, and I learned Portuguese online :)
       
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    12. Chase, Oct 9, 2017
      Chase

      Chase New Member

      male / 21
      Is anyone here interested in Japanese culture? Maybe we should create that thread, too?
       
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    13. SerbianGirl, Oct 9, 2017
      SerbianGirl

      SerbianGirl Member

      female / 28
      That'd be cool if there's someone who knows a little bit more about their culture :) I went to a language school in my country, and we were always learning about the culture and literature, too, and not only about the language.
       
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